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Commercial vehicles on Old Port Road could be a thing of the past if some residents get their way.

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Gordon , 04-08-11 21:26:
So an inbound bus is bringing passengers from the airport to Sea Temple, are they expected to drive in Port Douglas Road and turn right into Ulysses Ave to get access to Nautilus and Mitre St or do you think they should go all the way into Barrier and Reef and go the long way around ?
As long as Sea Temple stays where it is I'm afraid Old Port Road will have to remain open for busses.
I think it should get an upgrade ..
Lara , 04-08-11 16:49:
Okay,let be clear...the issue is safety not noise. No-one is "organising a group action because of noise." Noise is a bi-product of the rapid speed & screeching of breaks of the hasty traveling vehicles(which is why noise was mentioned) but noise is not the reason for this forum. SAFETY of the road on which all these vehicles travel and safety of a whole community is.The community is anyone who travels by foot, bike or motor vehicle on Old Port Road. This is not a "group action" for the residents who live by this road but a "concern" for the ALL residents & visitors of Port Douglas who use this passage.
Like "Steve" beautifully put it "local traffic will still be able to use the road. Should be no problem."
steve , 04-08-11 14:26:
The issue is not closing road or noise or anything else - rather it is about regulating the type of traffic. Local traffic will still be able to use the road. Should be no problem
Tim , 04-08-11 13:32:
A little perspective is required. I inderstand all commnents are made in the absence of reading the submission. The submission is an objective one and offers solutions. It is not emotive nor subjective and is based on facts and the application of engineering good practice as it is applied (or not) to Old Port Road). EG - the road is simply not designed for 2 trucks or busses to pass in opposite directions. Nor is it designed for the speeds it is being subjected to. All are entitled to individual opinions and we should let the assest owner- CRC consider the issue and respond accordingly.
Frank , 04-08-11 12:06:
Sounds a bit like the folk who buy/build near an airport then organise an action group because of the noise.
Not sure of the distance but the time factor from Craiglie to the intersection where the two roads meet is the same. For heavy traffic I would have thought the "main road" was a much easier drive!
Kevin , 03-08-11 23:41:
Yeah..good one what a beat up !
This would require CR council to
close down the only new visible infrastruture in Port Douglas, the new hotmix on Old Port Road.
I't aint gunna happen.
Coral Deen, 03-08-11 22:07:
Yes. It should have some sort of restricted access. It is not the designated main road into Port and so buses and trucks should be relegated to use main roads where ever possible, as they were designed for this use. There is no reason that through traffic should have to disrupt residential areas if there is an alternative. Of course, there should be access to Naultilus Street and ajacent areas.
The Newsport Editor , 03-08-11 17:01:
Just one more thing - this poll has enjoyed one of the biggest responses we have had on The Newsport, which demonstrates the strength of feeling about this subject. However I would like everyone to take a moment to reflect on how this open forum originated and ask that we stay on subject rather than descending into personal attacks. Please feel free to have your say but please avoid comments of a personal nature. After all every is entitled to their say even if you don't agree with what they say!
Simone , 03-08-11 16:53:
As long as the main intersection into Port has not been upgraded, Old Port Rd should be accessible.
An official bike/walkway all along Old Port Rd would make it a lot safer for walkers & bikers, especially for those who live near Plantation Resort and @ the sth end of Old Port Rd.
Mathew Churchill, 03-08-11 16:00:
Wow, what a response. Over 30 comments and well over 200 poll respondents. I think the one thing we can agree on is taking it easy on the roads. If you're interested, have a read of the latest Viewpoint on the home page (under Features) and see if you agree with my latest rant.
Gavin Hardy, 03-08-11 15:43:
Tim and Roz, I think you are very brave to express a legitimate concern and put yourselves forward for reward or ridicule. Regardless of the outcome, good on you for having a go. We are all entitled to "ask the question"

I also think we wouldn't be having this discussion if drivers just calmed down, lightened their pressure on the pedal, and stuck to the speed limit. Safer and quieter for all.

Unfortunately a noisy truck diving at 50kmh is still a noisy truck.

Hang in there… in 10 years time when we are all running on nice clean Hydrogen you won't hear a thing. :)
Wayne Hawke, 03-08-11 15:20:
It's never ceases to amaze me how some people don't do their homework when buying properties.
They buy a property backing onto a potentially busy road then complain about the noise.
It was allways destined to get more traffic like every other road in the country.
I would like to know if they bought the property at a cheaper price than other similar properties in the estate that didn't have potential noise problems.
Now the consequences of their poor decision making has come to light they want the rest of the community to foot the bill with sound barriers etc and inconvenience in getting around the area.
You bought it you wear it.
mick liggins, 03-08-11 14:18:
sometimes i wonder ?, think about the increase in noise that speed bumps and a roundabout on old port road would have, more gear changes , revving up and down before and after each one, not to mention suspension on trucks hitting the speed bumps going just a little to fast, gee that wont happen!
property is down 28-30% in the whole area not just bird wing street guys, what about a simple no commercial vehicles sign.
then lets fix the mariner and water front and get tourists back into town and that might fix the housing prices, create don't destroy.
by the way thor hit the nail on the head, one crash at iga cook hwy and the town it cut off if you close old port road, as i said sometimes i wonder.
Lara , 03-08-11 12:54:
I am certainly not supporting road closure but I am suggesting to make it safer by slowing down/reducing the traffic. Yes it is true the speed limit says 50k but very few cars/trucks/motorbikes are traveling at this speed, actually traveling at high speeds and making it very in safe for a residential area. Yes I agree the Cook Highway Round about takes full priority! I have to say I didn't expect to be attacked personally(about time on my hands, or where I chose to buy my house or that I should just move back to where I came from) for having an opinion. Just trying to have a say like everyone else.
Amie , 03-08-11 08:38:
I think there are more important thigns to worry about in life, especially the main intersection where people are actually getting hurt. This whole debate is ridiculous. A road is created for a reason, for traffic to use it. So wouldn't it make sense when your buy/build a house backing onto a road that traffic noise would be expected. Some people have to much time on their hands.
Jason Harmshaw, 03-08-11 08:35:
well I say If they want to close old port road then they will have to close the road to the roundabout because as a local myself I'll just turn left at the rounddabout on your way to the highway and go through there anyway.
Craig , 03-08-11 08:24:
I would support the monitoring of speed on this road, but I would also like to see the statistical data on the number of traffic accidents on this road V Port Douglas Rd. Further, as many residents would know, during wet season we have the potential for either Port D Road or Old Port Rd to flood, so my concerns would be that we would limit our access into Port if we were to remove access along Old Port Rd. Better lighting, road markings, and a pedestrian pathway would remove walkers, cyclists off Old Port Road for safety, but still provide a safe, alternate access way for traffic (Goods and Services) during the wet season.
Sam Cullen , 03-08-11 08:06:
Don't think this could even be considered until Capt Cook / Port Douglas intersection is fixed. Less traffic to that 'death trap' for now the better especially large vehicles that reduce even more driver vision.
Barbara and+Brian Lee, 03-08-11 08:06:
We Feel that restricting any traffic on the Old Port Rd would effect the accomadation bussinesses on Nautilus St.
mick liggins, 03-08-11 06:59:
sometimes i wonder ?, think about the increase in noise that speed bumps and a roundabout on old port road would have, more gear changes , revving up and down before and after each one, not to mention suspension on trucks hitting the speed bumps going just a little to fast, gee that wont happen!
property is down 28-30% in the whole area not just bird wing street guys, what about a simple no commercial vehicles sign.
then lets fix the mariner and water front and get tourists back into town and that might fix the housing prices, create don't destroy.
by the way thor hit the nail on the head, one crash at iga cook hwy and the town it cut off if you close old port road, as i said sometimes i wonder.
Berrick Barnes, 02-08-11 21:30:
As a tour operator I would like to say we have been using the Old Port Road for 30 years. I believe anybody who built or moved near this road knew of the traffic situation before becoming residents. It just amazes me that some people believe their needs are greater than other residents or tourists who live or stay in that area.
Bob Hughes, 02-08-11 20:49:
Fix the Capt. Cook / Port Rd roundabout first then bitch about Old Port Rd if no noticable improvement.
Sam , 02-08-11 19:40:
Closure is not the answer, stemming commercial traffic is. The traffic has not reduced the value of property, the economy has.
Some have mentioned the noise generated from the main arterial roads however they forget that the newer estates along these main roads were built with sound proofing and higher fencing. If you disagree that the noise is innapropriate for the area come and spend the morning listening to the traffic revving it up on their way out of town. Actually, a better idea for all, lets just ban any vehicle that makes more than 80dB of noise. Especially those dirt bikes and big V8's. How do you like them apples?
mick , 02-08-11 19:00:
The road has been there longer than your house.You do not own the road.It was there when you purchased it.If you dont want noise move to chillagoe.Traffic comes with living in town.The speed has been reduced from 100km/h to 50km/h.You may need to go back where you come from to appreciate what life is really like here instead of moving in then trying to change everything your way.I was born here and can remember riding my motorbike on the cane paddocks that used to be where your house is now.That was 30 odd years ago .
adrian , 02-08-11 18:30:
why wouldn't you want people driving past there and noticing houses and land for sale. if you don't want the noise then move further out of town. think that when the hardware store was there it was alot busier as well. what about all the residents in jacana street that back onto the main road?? if they didn't want to live there they wouldn't of bought or rented there
Frank Frikker, 02-08-11 18:09:
Noise level is a matter of perspective. There is not much traffic in Port and thus not really much noise. Go to a big city. I lived in Tokyo - there you learn what noise can be like. This here is really quite. The noise coming out of peoples homes can be terrible too. I suggest to put a sign up letting only normal cars and bikes use the road. This way it stays open for all but large commercial vehicles that should use the main roads anyway.
Julie , 02-08-11 17:52:
This will definitely increase traffic through the housing estate between Nautilus street and IGA. If you couldn't afford to buy where there is no traffic, don't whinge now. While we are at it why don't we close Nautilus street to everything but local traffic, it's a speed zone and traffic there really is a danger to pedestrians and residents. We won't even talk about the milk delivery truck that goes to Sea Temple and roars down Nautilus street every morning of the week around 7.30am. Get over yourselves and stop trying to make a sows ear into a silk purse, property prices in Birdwing were never going to break the bank, to now say it's the traffic of old port road that's responsible is a crock. There is no law against shortcuts and it has always been used as an industrial traffic bypass to avoid the IGA intersection.(imagine how bad that intersection would be if they didn't bypass!!)I've been around Port for 25+ years and that's Old Port Road!!
Rod Roberts, 02-08-11 17:21:
My feel is a lot of traffic avoids the Cook Hwy intersection because it is difficult and dangerous, and uses Old Port Rd instead. If that is fixed the larger vehicles will use the easier entry onto the Hwy - and leave Old Port Rd for local traffic. I certainly try and avoid the Cook Hwy intersection when riding my bike.
Lara , 02-08-11 17:16:
I agree with Tim & Roz! As a resident who's house backs onto Old Port Road we have noticed the increase in traffic, in heavy vehicles & especially NOISE! We would love to see speed humps & traffic islands placed up Old Port Rd to stop/reduce this and make it safer for our family's to cross the road at the round about where the cars are currently flying through at a dangerous speed for a residential area.
Karen , 02-08-11 17:14:
Agree with Adrian - it just moves their problem to others who back onto the highway or Port road. Prices are not dropping because of traffic. A more sensible, selfless and inclusive effort should be made to compel council to do what it should have done long ago when approving these sections - build sound barriers where they are needed. I'm sure the entire community would get behind that one.
Thor Stovell, 02-08-11 17:08:
Don't keep closing things and restricting access, we want it to be easy to come into Port and what happens when there is a major accident at the main intersection as there has been only recently. Do we stop all access in and out of town?
Kev , 02-08-11 17:06:
Old Port Road is just that - OLD! It is narrow, winding and dangerous. It is not the place for commercial vehicles or buses. Close the intersection of Old Port Road and the Highway then only vehicles that have a need to be in that area will enter. Port Douglas has a proper access from the highway and maybe soon a new roundabout or lights to make it safer. I fully support Tim and Roz.
Leonie , 02-08-11 17:05:
We all live in this town and should share the roads, they are not exclusive to people that live on them but a route to a destination. Private roads should not be encouraged.
MELANIE , 02-08-11 17:02:
We should be able to choose what roads we access if we live and work in this town. With the price of fuel continually rising shouldn't we encourage the shortest route. If we are considering work or delivery vehicles they should also have access to our properties via the shortest route! As for the noise - think about the city...
Robert , 02-08-11 17:02:
Trucks and buses over 2 tonne is a reasonable request.
But any decision about cars, vans, utes and bikes should wait until they sort out the dangerous
main entrance to Port. Many locals use OPRd to avoid that intersection. It's not a gated community
(yet) and would set a stupid precedent.
anthony Dickinson, 02-08-11 16:59:
Actually, it is not a short cut. If one drives to the speed limit on Old Port Road (which is 50km/h)then it is quicker to use Port Road/Cpt Cook Highway both to and from Craglie. If the speed cops spent more time on Old port road they would have a field day
Steve Marks, 30-07-11 12:43:
I agree with Tim & Roz Marks.
Adrian , 30-07-11 11:01:
What a ridiculous idea, in effect what this person proposes is that we redirect all traffic to Port Douglas Road, have these 'concerned' residents thought about the people in Jacana Close that backs onto PD Road? Have they thought that their life might not be affected by a hugley increased amount of traffic? I think not! Traffic makes noise yes, but traffic brings goods and tourists to town, goods can be sold to tourists, tourists spending pays your wages!!!!
Perhaps we should go a step further and ban vechiles from all of the roads in Port Douglas and make it a pedestrian zone, and while we are at it lets ban traffic from the highway as this also makes noise! If you feel that property prices have been that badly effected by traffic noise then perhaps you have had your head burried in the sand. These so called concerned residents are very concerned...only about themselves and have no concern for any other people at all. One eyed me me me attitudes are NOT what makes this the best town on the planet, the good old fashioned community spirit of old is what Port Douglas makes it that way. Shame on you selfish people.
Goodo , 30-07-11 00:48:
this is a joke isnt it, old port road has been there a whole lot longer than residential properties, you buy a house in this near this street you should know the terms that come with it. speed humps are for carparks,
Annie , 29-07-11 08:42:
I agree with the concern regarding the heavy duty vehicles that are way too big for the fabric of Old Port Road but I don't think it should include the buses. I'm thinking of residents who live in Icky St, that's a long dark walk from the Flame Tree roundabout up Old Port Road. And I'd also like to say that I love the sound of the motorbikes on a Sunday morning as they thunder through, they've been coming for years and it is sort of comforting to know it's one thing that hasn't changed and by the way I don't think its the traffic that's having an adverse affect on property prices, I'm pretty sure thats a much bigger matter.

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Old Port Road to close?

Two local residents have begun a crusade to reduce the level of traffic using Old Port Road as a short cut to and from town.

Tim Marks, a civil engineer, and wife Roz, have written a detailed submission on behalf of concerned residents of the area which has been sent to Infrastructure Services general manager of Cairns Regional Council, Ross McKim.

Mr and Mrs Marks, who purchased a property in Birdwing street in 2007, say that the majority of vehicles using Old Port Road do not need to be there.

"The only vehicles that should use Old Port Road are those vehicles accessing the various residential properties.

POLL - Should commercial vehicles be banned from Old Port Rd?
POLL RESULTS: 157 Yes : 152 No
POLL CLOSED: 8 August 2011


"The properties to the Craiglie end of Old Port Road may be developed into additional light commercial use. This will further increase the volume of commercial traffic using the Old Port Road route as a short cut into town."

The couple say noise from the increasing number of vehicles including buses, trucks, and motorbikes is having an adverse affect on property prices in the area.

"The large increase in traffic, and in particular heavy vehicles, has had a corresponding increase in noise levels. The road surface itself contributes to the noise generated by speeding vehicles as well as engine noise, loud radios etc.

"In the current economic climate any adverse affect on property values is felt very keenly...since 2007 the traffic volume has increased out of proportion to the properties serviced by Old Port Road, and safety concerns along with noise levels are having a negative impact on property values along Old Port Road.

Mr and Mrs Marks outlined three possible solutions in their submission including:

  • Sound reduction measures such as "landscaped batters";
  • Closing a section of Old Port Road between the roundabouts at Nautilus Street and Yiki Street;
  • Introducing traffic control and traffic "calming" measures such as 'Local Traffic Only' signage and speed bumps.

"Old Port Road is used as a walking and bike route by adults and children so safety is a concern," Mr Marks said. "Also the speed and volume and poor visibility through the roundabouts is of concern.

"There have been unreported accidents at night on the road and vehicles removed prior to daylight," he said.

To date over 40 residents have signed a petition in support of the proposal.

POLL - Should commercial vehicles be banned from Old Port Rd?
POLL RESULTS: 157 Yes : 152 No
POLL CLOSED: 8 August 2011 

 

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